That was the main motor that we had all during the 73 days, practically two month and a half that we were there. At those moments in what you focused your thoughts? You have said to me that the action was very important truth? perhaps it helped not to think you not to not only think, we we had to make many things to survive then we did not have equipment of high mountain. For us the work in equipment was fundamental, to develop the power of the equipment, to develop the creativity that was enormous. We invent all type of things. In the mountain we did not have clothes, we did not have practically anything we invented blankets, machines to leak, hammocks for the wounded, sun lenses, and all that with the airplane service lives, because the resources that we had were practically absurd.

Whereupon resources we counted? We counted on three empty bottles, a Swiss knife, a lighter, one old radio, and the ball of rugby, that was quite important. If you want soon I explain to you why. And good, with those few resources we had to invent of a whole little knapsacks, sleighs, canes, bags to sleep. The creativity was very important. I suppose that there is before and after this experience. How it has influenced? How it has changed to you, Ramon? I believe that most important that it was left us to all is the knowledge no that there is impossible in the life. The knowledge that can, that always there is possible, leaving the crises. The important thing is that when one is in its own mountain ranges (that all we have every day) is to rise, to drive, and to give him stops it advanced, and not to remain complaining in the life. To enjoy the life, to be shared in common.